Lenovo ThinkPad T470

Where do I get a Laptop with a Nvidia GPU for 600$ ? I'm right now in the Market for a new Laptop, because I need way more GPU Power than my T470 provides, and to be honest the MacBookPros are quite competitively priced compared to the P-ThinkPads with Nvidia Cards. (Both around 3000€) They also finally offer a matte screen option The only thing holding me back right now is the soldered SSD, RAM (and shitty Linux support). It was quite nice being able to upgrade RAM, SSD and replace the Battery on it. Otherwise it wouldn't have lasted for 9 years

> My 9 year old ThinkPad T470 is doing well with his 3rd or 4rd battery (and a new SSD and more RAM). But would it be doing well with only a new battery? Chances are a regulation that only regulates batteries won’t do much for tech that still is improving at a fairly decent rate.

It's running now with Fedora Linux, but it's still doing everything with 32GB RAM, and it's 2TB SSD what I need. (Editing Documents, doing some light coding, Python, R and browsing the Internet) I also still get 10hrs battery life out of it. I've thought already about replacing it, but it doesn't make any sense for me. Especially that new ThinkPads in the T-Series have worse battery Life than I get right know due to their batteries being smaller and not anymore hot swappable.

No it won't. It's about reducing eWaste from the devices itself. Throwing away a whole device just because the battery is bad is much worse than just throwing away a worn out battery. My 9 year old ThinkPad T470 is doing well with his 3rd or 4rd battery (and a new SSD and more RAM). Also external powerbanks are pretty unpractical compared to a fresh new internal battery.

I have a T470 bought in 2017. I have done the following: - replaced the screen when I accidentally dropped water on the laptop, and the screen shorted out. - upgraded RAM from 8 GB to 32 GB - Replaced internal battery after it gave out about 5 years in. - Expanded storage by putting a memory chip on the WAN slot. I think almost all of these issues would have required getting a new laptop if it was not repairable. I also have done similar repairs on my T440s, so it will work as an emergency laptop if anything happens to my T470. In fact, it did when I my screen stopped working 3rd month of Covid.

Depends on your laptop and exact trackpad model. I have a T470 and the trackpad works fine. That said, it does have three physical buttons (for working with the trackpoint), which I use with the trackpad when I want to do complex drag and drop operations.

I used to have that similar T470 laptop 5 years ago and it worked really nice. Given that it was company owned, it came out with Windows 10 enterprise, but never felt it underperforming. It's hard to come by that gnome is slower than windows 10

I find ram crazy. My thinkpad has 32G of ram, it's a t470 that's nearly a decade old Why do people with modern laptops have such little amounts of ram?

This t470 on ubuntu 2404 runs steam just fine. The main issue with modern games is the lack of gpu, but gpus in laptops are never great.

I buy 10 "recertified" versions of it to use until I die. A dozen T470 laptops which are the last to support dual method charging, would have cost 15k when new, about $1500 to buy 12 now. VIZIO non smart lcds connected to anycast receivers. Android 7(IMO the peak of android os) devices that require no online activation. original apk files, core 9 and under CPUs, DDR3 and DDR4 RAM.

I have an oldish Lenovo Thinkpad T470 which is bulker but it's very good nonetheless and a Dell XPS (4 years old, and the battery sadly is the weak point since I used it 95% of the time connected to an outlet and never cared for battery health)

Nothing with Linux or Windows approaches the battery life. simply not true! My Lenovo T470 has two batteries. I get 12 hours of life with it running all day. I also have a spare battery to take with me on long journeys and I just replace the main battery if it runs low without shutting it down. lenovo designed this range of laptop with an inner and an external battery so you did not have to shut the laptop down if the main battery ran low.

Thinkpad X250, admittedly at max specs, did 21 hours in 2018. My T470 from 2020 did over 27 hours at max charge. M-series Macs is when MacBooks stopped sucking at battery life without sleeping and wrecking state every moment they could.

I just bought a used Thinkpad T470, and with arch linux (btw), hyprland, and neovim, I’m starting to like this machine more than my M1 macbook. The one thing I always thought my M1 couldn’t be beat at by an IBM compatible laptop is battery life, but the T470 actually has very good battery life. I’m not using the T470 for anything CPU intensive, but it’s the same with my MacBook. Just hobby projects, mostly writing code. I’m starting to wonder why I paid > 1k for a MacBook when a $200 used thinkpad is totally fine.

Seems to be plenty of decent second hand machines. I'm typing this on an ex-corporate T470 I got for £250. Spend another £120 replacing the battery and pushing upto 32G of ram (I actually bought 3 of them, one for my son and one for my S.O. Those didn't need to last for hours at a time so they're on original battery+memory and work great) I know it's in the industries interest to force E-Waste, but it's not in the public interest.

If replaceable CPU isn’t a priority, I can recommend the T470 or T480. I’m currently using a T470 [1] with 16 GB DDR-3 3200MHz RAM [2], a 2 TB NVMe SSD [3], a Wi-Fi 6AX card [4], the Innolux N140HCG-GQ2 1080p 100% sRGB 8-bit 400 nits panel [5] (based on the T14 / T490 display), and the Lenovo 61++ battery [6]. The result is a laptop that can hold 17 hours of battery (95Wh), supports a Thunderbolt 3 dock and the old Lenovo dock, supports USB-C PD charging and the old Lenovo charging port and is the perfect mix of performance, repairability, and compatibility. You can build this laptop yourself, depending on how the pricing is where you are, for about 600 €. ---------------- [1] https://www.afbshop.de/notebooks/20668/lenovo-thinkpad-t470-... [2] https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08LQG2SDS/ [3] https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07MLJD32L/ [4] https://www.amazon.de/dp/B087WVLPXW/ [5] https://www.xelent-store.de/Innolux-N140HCG-GQ2-400cd-Low-Po... [6] https://www.amazon.de/dp/B06WGMPFCD

I’ve got the T470 (as it has the old docking + charging port PLUS thunderbolt), modded it with the N140HCG-GQ2 panel (1080p, 100% sRGB, 400 nits, 8bit), with a 2TB NVMe SSD, 32GB of DDR4-2400MHz RAM, etc. I've got two 75Wh batteries I can switch between. Overall I get great performance even for stuff like running IDEA and a spring web app in a docker container, and I get 13h+ of battery life out of it (+10h if I switch the external battery to the second one I keep in my laptop bag). I'd wish the 30th anniversary thinkpad (coming this year) will be just an upgraded T25 with a modern ryzen processor but in every other way identical (I know, an unrealistic dream)

I'm typing this on a T470 running Linux. It has been a fantastic laptop all around. In general I find it more productive than my work issued MBP. Others have stated hardware failures with their Lenovo, however I use mine daily and, generally, do not treat it any different than other laptops. The keyboard has fared better than the last three MBP I've been issued / reissued. YMMV, obviously. All hardware can fail and all hardware can have manufacturing defects. Overall, however, I feel as though my T470 is a more durable machine. And I'm excited to see AMD in the T lineup. While I might not purchase the first iteration, I'll definitely be watching the space. Lenovo is supporting Linux on a lot of their hardware moving forward [0]. Lenovo also joined LVFS in 2018 to provide native Linux firmware updates [1]. [0] https://www.lenovo.com/linux [1] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/08/lvfs-lenovo-firmware-upd...

I have the same experience: My T470 always goes at least 10 hours, and the battery estimate shows 16+ from a full charge. My work Macbook might get 5 on a good day?

It is the pain of replicating the same setup in both machines. I used a desktop machine and a laptop. Whenever I have to move, I have to replicate the repos and the setup on my laptop. I prefer to do throw all that I can on laptop. I remote access the desktop when my laptop fails or when I need a long running process. Whenever I need, I connect the display to my laptop. I am quite comfortable with my laptop's keyboard. If I am not, I just connect other peripherals directly to my laptop too. Granted, now I have a T470 with 24Gb RAM. So this setup works fine. Previously when I had an old T410, I relied heavily on the desktop. So there's that. Also, now, with a laptop, it is much easier to make employees take home their work, I suppose.