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IBM

16owners with an opinion
75%of verdicts positive
5/1positive/negative since 2024
5 yrslongest happy owner
1happy after 3+ years

Praised for reliability and comfort; criticized for display and portability.

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I use a couple of small form-factor IBM keyboards I bought on sale for about $10 each a few years ago...looks like the Rapid Access III is the current model that looks pretty much the same, and they sell for ~$50. IBM historically makes really solid keyboards with a nice feel. The small form-factor brings Esc and Del/Home/PgUp/PgDn closer to the home row, without losing the number pad. They're about five years old now, and probably due for replacement (they still work fine, but five years worth of heavy use tends to make keyboards kinda gross and key labels fade and such). I looked at the new Apple keyboards when I was at the Apple store with a friend, and for the first time in my life felt a pretty strong desire for an Apple product. They look amazing. I'm not sure I'll actually like it better than the IBM for long term use, though. But I suspect that'll be my next keyboard, at least to give it a try.
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My kids find mechanical disks (let alone things like CDs/DVDs or (gasp) vinyl) to be bizarre concepts. The fact that the disk drives for the IBM mainframe that I worked with in the mid-to-late 80s were the size of a washing machine absolutely blows them away.
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MiSTer has been a huge boon for me in terms of saving space and having access to old computers. I have it in an old pizza box case and connected to my old IBM CRT monitor. I have a modern mouse and mechanical keyboard, but I tried to make everything as beige as possible...
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What I remember from my experiences with terminals and printers (the only display devices available at the time) from 1978-1980 was that the 0x7F character rendered as a checkered box. This correlates with (0xFF) Figure 5 in the article. This was common among all printers I worked with, Teletype, Epson, Okidata, TI, Printronix, and even IBM. Also all the Lear Siegler, Televideo, DEC, Hazeltine, terminals I used did something similar. Even the character ROMs in my Ferguson Big Board II, and Kaypro II used the same checkered box pattern.
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When I started college in 1993 about half the computer lab were DEC Ultrix machines. By the time I graduated it had transitioned to Solaris and HP-UX. I had a summer internship in 1995 and the Win 3.1 machine was so unstable for running an X server to the Suns, 3270 mainframe emulator, and browser using the Win32s (environment for running 32-bit application on 16-bit Win 3.1) We found the supply closet with over 200 old 486 machines. The other intern and I installed Linux on some and it worked far better than the Win3.1 setup. The older guys saw it and wanted one too. We set up an assembly line with a Linux NFS server with the Slackware disk images to avoid swapping floppies. At least over a 10 Mbit network we found the NFS performance to be fine. A couple of years later at my job after graduation I convinced our manager to buy PCs to use as X terminals with larger monitors and move the Suns to the closet for the chip design jobs. I remember having some NFS issues and Trond Myklebust (Linux NFS guy) had me trying some NFS version 3 patches that improved performance between a Linux client and Solaris server.
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Ah, finally a topic I know something about. In general, monitors and TVs were NOT shipped by common carrier. In the consumer realm, you went to the store to buy your TV or computer and brought it home in your station wagon, possibly bribing your neighbor with beer if you needed help with the big heavy boxes or just wanted some company for the ordeal. In the business realm, companies like IBM and Dell had (and still do) their own carriers that they contract with because it gives them more control over every part of the delivery process. That said, CRTs are not particularly fragile, they are just heavy and bulky. With enough Styrofoam, they ship just fine. I did it multiple times. It costs a lot more than you'd like, of course, but generally cheaper than a plane ticket. I was actually surprised when I learned for the first time that Amazon sold big LCD televisions. They are MUCH more fragile than a CRT on account of being a big pane of thin glass that's not allowed to bend or twist at all. I have to imagine the shipping loss rate of these is somewhere in the single digits at least.
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I think this is overly critical and I'm not sure I can see the justification. My understanding from that quote is that IBM is a name that everyone "knows", but fewer and fewer persons actually know what IBM even does anymore or why IBM is a household name. Your additional examples aren't really counter examples most probably for most people; you've just listed additional companies that are likely common enough names that no one else outside the tech/finance sphere really knows why the name is a known name. I don't see this as disingenuous, I see as an accurate reflection of the modern interpretation of many of these older companies. Apple for example is "relatively" old(er), but you can ask anyone what you might get from Apple right now and probably they can name at least one thing like "oh yeah they make good phones" or "I like their laptops." My entire professional career has been in IT/Programming, and the best I can tell you about what IBM offers is "eh, you can pay a ton for a contract for some server hardware/software. Hardware support is fine, but the rest is a dice roll on what you're actually getting for your money." I don't associate IBM at this point with a specific service or product I'd seek so much as just "this is a tech company that you pay a ton of money to and hope it works out for your project". Though I will give them credit for their LTO tape hardware -- that is solid and straight forward enough for my tastes. My personal experience, half the time I talk…
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My Indy keyboard lasted from the day I bought my first Indy all the way up to about five years ago and I miss it still. Built like a tank, doesn't slide around the desk while using it, super nice keyboard action and with a little ps2/USB adapter still perfectly usable. My eldest (re)built me an IBM keyboard that I hope to start using one of these days (the adapter seems to not like the keyboard all that much and it misses characters every now and then).
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Amber was good but I preferred the flicker-free long-persistence green phosphor (P39) like on the IBM monitor. It had a lot of ghosting but was easy on the eyes. The article is wrong, though. The green in a color monitor is generally a different phosphor from mono monitors which were based on oscilloscopes originally. Studies supposedly showed that amber was easier on the eyes but I often found it a little dim. Computer users of the time, like 911 operators, often worked in darkened rooms to see the screens better.
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More importantly, "pre-cloud" means years ago and therefore older hardware, but also yes, software mostly isn't written to be high performance. Modern NVMe drives get 1000x the performance of hard disks 10 years ago. You can buy one that can fit the entire reddit text database for $150 now. 10 years ago you'd be looking at a high six-figure SAN appliance from IBM or EMC to get the kind of performance my desktop has now. You can have TBs of RAM and 100+ cores in a server now. You can get 400 Gb/s networking now, and some people even have 10 Gb/s home internet. You could basically run some of the biggest sites from 10 years ago out of your closet these days. Some software has also improved a lot in the last 10 years. Things like io_uring are great. Green threads are great. Postgres is super fast these days, and it keeps getting faster. My old quad core computer with a SATA drive can already do ~60-70k requests/second with a Scala web app and postgres. That's without even using graal or loom or trying to screw around with core affinity. If anything, the cloud scales poorly. People in practice end up using vastly underpowered VMs, and then horizontally scale them, which introduces a ton of overhead (computationally and management-wise). RDS gets you like 3000 IOPS baseline and increasing that to the level of a single NVMe drive will cost one employee's firstborn child each month, so people end up with this mistaken belief that RDBMSs are slow or don't scale. AWS will provide you…