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Apple MacBook Pro Retina

107owners with an opinion
84%of verdicts positive
11/2positive/negative since 2024
10 yrslongest happy owner
18happy after 3+ years

Praised for reliability and performance; criticized for software and ease of use.

What owners wrote

Likes itOwned 8 yearsStill going
Well, like so many people, I've not given much thought to what I'll do if my laptop "pops", because I've had this one for 8 years now, and it's been pretty solid all that time. Presumably if it blew up tomorrow I'd use my phone to pick up a used laptop of some kind and restore from backup. Right now that's an MBPr. In future I hope my FreeBSD Framework. As for sharing, I believe I can run what I need to be productive under FreeBSD. But time will tell. (It would be nice if a FreeBSD guru would volunteer to baby the Framework crowd with a guide. I would click the paypal donate button.)
Likes itOwned 8 yearsStill going
Mid-2012 Retina MBP, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 2.3Ghz Quadcore i7. I just ordered a new 500GB SSD for it and need to get some new rubber feet. Software development, mail, browsing. I also have a SFF desktop (similar specs) from about 2015 that I upgraded the GPU and storage in recently. Lastly, we're about to resurrect my wifes 2008 (2.1Ghz Core2Duo) white Macbook with by upgrading to 4GB RAM and a new 250GB SSD that will sport a fresh Solus-Mate install when the parts get here. She'll use it for browsing mostly.
Likes itOwned 7 years
I think that you keep apple products longer than others, I kept my mbp retine 2013 till 2 years ago, iphones I change every 4 years or so (but they support for 5 years the mobile devices iirc), I bought in 10 years 2 apple tvs, while with google you can’t keep your device more than 2/3 years because of updates, most cheap laptops are thrown in a year or two. So I disagree with you, apple isn’t generating that much waste, but indeed they could generate less by opening the unsupported devices to install alternative OSes.
NeutralOwned 6 years
I think it’s the default policy. My rMBP from 2012 started to have battery issues and I got a $300 quote for replacement that included a new top car. Got the $80 battery from ifixit and replaced the battery relatively easily. It did have me pour generous amounts for aceton (nail polish remover) into my MacBook to unglue the battery though, was happy that everything still worked after.
Likes itOwned 5 years
I used that same model for 5 years until I finally upgraded in 2017 and totally regretted it, the upgrade was not worth it at all, I would have been just as happy with the 2012. I quickly replaced it again with the "Mea Culpa" 2019 where they added back in ports, etc, would have been just about worth the upgrade over the 2012, 7 years later, but again, not by a big margin. The 2012 MBP 15" Retina was probably the only machine I bought where the performance actually got better over the years, as the OS got more optimized for it (the early OS revisions had very slow graphics drivers dealing with the retina display) The M1 Pro on the other hand, that was a true upgrade. Just a completely different experience to any Apple Intel laptop.
NeutralOwned 5 years
My personal anecdote. So my trusty rMBP turned 5 years old on June 15. Happy Birthday. As I'm a solo developer for a number of companies, I decided it's a good time to get a spare "just in case". I am "particularly offended" by the touch bar, because the way I type my fingers rest closer to the top, and on my mate's X1 3rd Gen I always turn sound on and off... :-) So touch bar = no go. I got an 4k touchscreen Dell XPS 15 9570 from an OEM channel (no CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM, battery), put in a real 6-core i7-8750h, 32G DDR4-3200, mobile 1050Ti, 2T Intel's T660 SSD, and a 94Wh battery. Switched Wifi to the new Intel AX200. Repasted with Kryonaut paste, added some 3M heat pads. All in all cost me ~$1800. A week ago my MBP finally stopped working, main board failure. Over the course of 5 years I changed screen twice (first the horrible staingate, then water damage), battery twice (first one popped within 1.5 years), repasted, and changed the little charging board. It's time for it to retire. Migrating to Windows 10 turned out to be much less pain than I expected. A few tweaks for the horrible font rendering, install GlassWire (like Little Snitch), Wox (like Spotlight), Seer (preview on Space bar), Chocolatey (like Homebrew), ThrottleStop (easy performance boost), SpeedFan (for fan control), and it feels pretty much like a Macbook. I'm pretty amazed on how easy it was to just swap parts inside - unscrew the lid, pop out the old one, insert the new one. Keyboard is great. Touchpad is ok
Likes itOwned 5 years
I had keys go bad twice on my 2017 MBP, but both times I've managed to "massage" them back to life by pressing down hard and wiggling the keys around. My previous laptop, the original 2012 MBP Retina, lasted 5 years. I have my doubts this one is built as robustly... That said I actually enjoy typing on this keyboard. The short travel and sharp, stable clickiness has lowered my typing error rate and makes it feel like I'm typing faster. I was never a good typist though.
Recommends itOwned 4 yearsStill going
The 2013 15" Retina Macbook Pro Got it to upgrade from a 2008 15" Macbook Pro in 2013, and it's still running like a champ. I only really upgrade my laptops every five years and it looks like it will easily beat that. I even have it encrypted with FileVault and there's absolutely no slowness with development. I even use it to use Remote Play for my PS4, really nice way to game when I'm not at my house. The only real issue is that I wish I would have splurged on the SSD. For me, 512GB doesn't cut it with the amount of projects and repositories I have on my built in SSD, and this includes my extensive prog rock music collection. It's not lightweight though, ~5 lbs in your backpack does add strain to your shoulders if you walk around with it. The battery is sufficient for me at around 4 hours of use with medium to full brightness, enough, at least, so I don't /need/ to take my charger in to work.
Likes itOwned 4 years
So this happened to me. My 2012 retina MacBook Pro battery was dying. Which makes sense, I used it every day for over four years. I figured I could take it to Apple for a battery replacement. They said they would do it — for $900. They told me it involved replacing the entire bottom half of the computer as the battery was glued in. So I called their support line and complained that the laptop was perfectly fine and it shouldn't cost that much to replace a battery. They ended up replacing it for free, as well as the screen (because they identified that the anti-reflective coating was starting to wear). So while the policy was ridiculous, the actual outcome was very positive.
Likes itOwned 4 yearsStill going
Something weird is going on, my friend. I have been using a 2012 rMBP 15" w/only 8GB of RAM (ordered the day they were announced before we found out the RAM was not upgradeable, whoops) every day, 10 hours+ a day and never have any problems. The only time my fans kick on is when you'd expect; when I'm doing heavy load tasks like playing a game or doing anything using Adobe Flash. I can stream HTML5 video full screen for hours and the fans never become audible. I can run Xcode for hours and as long as my app isn't being a CPU hog, everything's kosher. So, something is wrong with your machine. The OS X reinstall failing to resolve the issue points away from malware, and towards an environmental or hardware issue. If your machine is only a few months old Apple will take a look at it for free, I'd consider that option to rule out any hardware issues if you can't think of any obvious environmental causes (Do you smoke? High temperature in your working area(s)? etc.)
Recommends itOwned 3.5 yearsStill going
This idea that laptops should be tinker able is just so weird to me. No laptop is really tinker able. The best you can do is replace RAM and HDD. Motherboards, battery modules, etc. are all proprietary in these things and usually anything beyond those three is non-trivial to replace. Call me crazy but I'd rather just have a machine that's specced right out of the box, and with a battery module that I never need to replace. My 2012 15" Retina MacBook is still going strong over 3.5 years later. Not only that but the machine has been a pleasure to use every day. It's true there should be alternatives to Apple products out there that are similar build quality, but I have yet to find them. Some of my coworkers are hard line anti-Apple and their laptops are all really poorly made, IMHO.
Recommends itOwned 3 yearsStill going
I ran Linux on the desktop for 19 years, running many years with all the big ones, from Slackware to RedHat to SuSE to Gentoo to Ubuntu. Except for gaming, it was my main OS at work and home for about 15 of those years. I even worked 4 years at a place that used Gentoo for all the mission critical stuff, for a person who was a prolific contributor. I finally switched to a MBPr about 3 years ago, and have never been happier. Except that the hardware prospects seem dim. So I've been contemplating moving back. The problem is that the great battery life, flawless suspend and resume, and reliable external display handling of the MBP have forever spoiled me. For a couple years, I used Gentoo on a Dell laptop, and it was very touchy about how I shutdown and suspended, lest it get stuck, and need to have the battery removed to reset it. At one point, in dealing with Xconfig, I even fried the video card (which Dell covered under warranty). When I read stories, like this one, about people running Linux on a laptop, I'm very careful to note the points they make about these things, but nothing I've read makes me think that any available Linux install is going to do well handling these things out of the box, and I'm just tired of tweaking kernel settings and config files to make them work. If someone could say that some particular laptop works perfectly with some particular distro of Linux, I'd probably give it another go. I really hold out hope for Dell's XPS Linux machine, but I read th
Doesn’t like itOwned 3 years
I notice that you quoted this part: > I've upgraded it to the max and done repairs to maintain it. but didn't mention it in your retort to the rest of that paragraph. You can't upgrade the new macbooks. I am typing this from a 2015 Macbook Pro Retina, I bought it with the biggest hard drive they offered at the time, and am currently doing development off a thunderbolt hard drive. Do you know how much that sucks? I would do anything to be able to just open up my computer and pop in more RAM or a bigger SSD, like I used to do with my matte 15" macbook. That macbook lasted me so long, and so many RAM upgrades / network card installations (for Bluetooth 4.0) / etc etc. I've been using this computer for almost three years, I have have to go through a lot of trouble to do my work on it (I work at a .NET shop), and I'm strongly considering just getting a Windows 10 laptop instead of dealing with this mess. It sucks to have to carry around a hard drive for my SQL back-ups because I can't upgrade the hard drive in my computer.
Likes itOwned 3 years
I built a desktop with a quad core i5, 16gb ram, a GTX970, an Intel SSD, and around 2tb of spinning disk storage. The whole build cost around $700 and it's a very fast machine. I also have 2x 1440p 25" monitors, a mechanical keyboard, and recently added a (normal looking) gaming mouse. I use it primarily for programming/research and occasionally games/oculus rift. Also makes a great web server. I run Ubunutu, with i3 window manager. I really like this combo after some personalization. It's very stable, and lightweight. I also have two Windows versions and a secondary Linux installation which come in handy. I also have a 2013 15" rMBP of which I think very highly. I can mount my 2tb of desktop storage, and my SSD as a network drive on the MacBook for sharing files. I also use SSH to run intensive scripts (sometimes GPU stuff) on the desktop. 10/10 would recommend this setup
Likes itOwned 3 years
In 2012, I switched away from using Windows all my life and purchased a Macbook Pro Retina (which was expensive considering I had just finished my undergrad). The one factor that prompted the switch? The display. I've always been a sucker for high quality screens, and even before I saw what a high DPI screen looked like, I knew I couldn't stand the low-res 1680x1050 monitor I was working on. I'm frustrated that it's almost 2016 and there still aren't any good desktop monitors available for a reasonable price. My MBP is nice, but I like having lots of screen real estate while programming, so I either set the font to 8 px and squint, or I hook my laptop up to an iMac and try to ignore the pixelation. Neither is a good solution, and 4K displays still look kind of pixely to me, so I'm not going to buy one of those. The 5K options, as mentioned in the article, include the one that Dell sells or the iMac 5K, but the Dell is expensive for just a monitor and the iMac's CPU/etc. will quickly become obsolete. The problem is the amount of bandwidth current generation display cables are capable of handling (HDMI, DisplayPort, etc.), and if I remember correctly, I think the few 5K displays that exist have to kind of hack together a solution — one cable is not sufficient. As soon as I can get a nice 27" or 30" 5K IPS display for a reasonable price (preferably OLED with a wide color gamut if I'm dreaming), then I'll be set for years to come.
Recommends itOwned 3 yearsStill going
I was burning through lots of Apple laptops for the last ~10 years. Finally, when I started my own startup (and was doing heavy consulting in the beginning) I decided to take all the spare capital I had and invest in a "top of the line" Macbook Pro. I got a deal through a third party apple reseller and still paid around $2300. This was late 2012 and I am still typing on it today with no desire to upgrade. 3 years on one machine is an eternity from me. I got the 512 SSD so I could run multiple OS's and not worry about still having room for any media I might want. I still have ~80gb free with all my mp3's and VM's. 16GB of ram and a retina display as well. I get the "apple hate". I really do. I have 3 laptops total in my life (Chromebook Pixel and Debian HP Stream 11 which serve very different purposes) and I still feel that the OSX is the best Unix based operating system for productivity in my market (startup/web development). Maybe when Linux display tools wrap their head around high dpi displays, my opinion will change (Chromebook Pixel handles it very well so it must be coming!) but I really urge anyone who says "I personally will not buy anything from Apple" to reconsider why they're saying that. Even Microsoft is making some pretty awesome choices these days, so I for one would never rule out the possibility of someone woo-ing me. ..a brief aside on the price... if I bought this for $2300 in December 2012, then I used it for all of 2013, 2014 and 5 months in 2015. 29 mo
Doesn’t like itOwned 2 years
I'm in a similar position and I can answer for my situation. I bought iPad 3 back in 2012 I think. I liked it a lot and I bought iPhone 4S which I liked even more (until they released iOS 7 but that's theme for another rant). After that I understood that I love Apple approach and decided to buy a Macbook as I wanted to write some apps and also needed new laptop at that time. I bought Retina Macbook Pro 15" mid 2012. Well, it was worst laptop I ever saw. Software was good, I still love it. SSD broke in the second month, so I took it to repair and it was in repair for another month until replacement SSD arrived. Thankfully it was covered by warranty and that's the only good thing about this situation. I used it for 2 years and then it just started to tear apart. Charger cable failed. I bought new at aliexpress, tried to replace it and almost caused a fire, so I had to buy a new charger which costs like a cheap laptop LoL. Keyboard failed. Right now half of keys just do not work, another half of keys work if pressed hard enough. And I did not spill anything there, they just don't register presses. I'm using USB keyboard to work on it. Audio port failed. There's some switch there to detect optical cable or something like that. That switch is stuck, so red laser always lighting out of there and macOS thinks that I inserted a headphones, so speakers do not work. And headphones do not work either. I'm using USB headphones if I need sound. It sometimes panics. I think that something'
Doesn’t like itOwned 2 years
I am using company provide rMBP for 2 years and I like to linux like terminal/bash, but otherwise I can't find any reason it is so revered. Multi monitor support sucks so bad, I have to wiggle mouse few seconds at bottom of monitor before it is taken as active, but boy popup of active window still opens on 2nd monitor. I minimize Firefox it goes down in Dock, now when I press Cmd+Tab, Firefox is in the applications list but the window doesn't comes back. I have to click on it with mouse to open it. And maximize screen button now defaults to new full screen Desktop, which looks good if you use trackpad and swipe around, but with keyboard it adds no value, just distracts a lot, and apps like Chrome/Finder if I click option+maximize, they believe I want some sort of horizontal/vertical expansion. /rant Edit: Even greater WTF is dialog boxes, I use tab to focus on a button, press enter and viola the default action is taken, ignoring the keyboard focus, so if I don't want to save file, I have to use trackpad :|
Doesn’t like itOwned 2 years
Yes, same issue on retina Macbook Pro 15, bought 2013. Apple refused to repair the screen. It is clearly that the scratches match the structure of the keyboard. Previous model does not have this issue and is used identically. I bought the laptop in Japan and requested repair in Czech Republic. Apple refused my claims because "international" warranty is only for 1 year (I asked for repair after 2 years). The result? Screen is not repaired and difficult to use unless completely dark. This issue is quite common and It would be nice if Apple change its policy in this case as well.
Doesn’t like itOwned 2 years
Ctrl+F'd in this thread for "eye strain" to see if anyone else reports oddly having more eye strain from using a retina screen. I used a 15" macbook pro retina for 2 years pretty much 8 hours a day and noticed my eye sight deteriorating rapidly. I thought it was just the hours I was logging in front of a computer screen and thought 'well atleast I'm using a retina screen'. But now that I've stopped using the macbook and have moved to an old 20" lcd screen and working on Windows 7, I find that my eyesight has recovered significantly. I can read road signs and my ability to change focus has improved. I'm not sure what the explanation could be but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that your eyes are actually more stressed when they try to resolve the denser retina pixels. Any one have any insight?
Doesn’t like itOwned 0.25 years
Recently bought a Macbook Pro Retina (3 months ago), the charging cable is already dying and the ethernet - usb adapter they provide is utter crap. Each of those cost an arm and honestly, maintenance costs isn't something I factored in when I bought this 1800$ laptop. All around, the laptop is OK but not great. That experience really contrasts the very positive one I had five years ago. What went wrong? How can basic manufacturing quality tank this hard in such a small timeframe? Did they fire the wrong guy?
Doesn’t like it
Unfortunately, that might be your only solution. From what I can tell from photos of your new monitor's pixels, it has a polarizer that is of similar taste of my Dell U2414Hs, just much newer. It aims for natural reproduction, which means pixels aren't sharply defined from neighbors, and subpixels blend together. I prefer monitors like these, so I can't really argue with your choice. Sadly, due to a lot of younger kids being raised on phones (which have exceptionally sharp screens), modern high end screens keep being pushed towards sharper and clear to a fault. Apple refuses to adjust rendering, since Apple's own taste in screens prefers natural over sharp. Even their OLEDs clearly have a film on them to hide the subpixel misalignment; the side effect of this is their brightness and contrast is lower, but eye fatigue is also lower. Unfortunately, this is why I won't take OSX seriously: I bought a MBPr many years ago, I really tried to like OSX, I tried to understand why people like it, but it ultimately is a death by a thousand cuts, and entirely Apple's fault. That MBPr ran OSX for a year, then Windows 10 a bit, and then Linux until it died. The text rendering was only fatigue-free on Windows and Linux, OSX had always been too fuzzy, especially with dark themes. If you're not willing to break up with Apple, yeah, you're stuck just buying Apple-friendly monitors. A lot of OLEDs are just too clear and sharp and I don't disagree with you on sending it back.
Doesn’t like it
For apple you just need to be an apple customer, they do a good job on crashing computers with their OSX updates like Sonoma. I remember my first macbook pro retina couldn’t go to sleep because it wouldn’t wake up till apple decided to release a fix for it. Good thing they don’t make server OSes.
Doesn’t like it
I think the switch to their own arm based chips should have been the writing in the wall for the end of the hackintosh. I think we're at a point where we are going to wind up needing Linux more and more. My kid is running IIRC 2014 rMBP that I passed on to her a few years ago. While it still runs, it's long passed it's last supported update and now even forced unsupported updates are going to stop working. I'm not sure where the gesture support is in Linux at this point. Google maps in Chrome is probably the best demo experience. I'm looking forward to Cosmic in Pop!OS from System76. I've preferred their take on UX for a while.
Doesn’t like it
You've obviously never tried an apple laptop. Over the years nearly all of the components of my 2012 mbp retina have been replaced several times. The only things that are still original are the ssd and the bottom plate. Motherboard issues within a year, weak hinges, battery failing within 2 years, power cables failing every 9 months. In all my years of using laptops (15 years before I got the apple) I've never had a failing power cable, until I tried Apple cables.