Apple MacBook Pro 2019

Apple is a terrible company through and through that should have been broken up million years ago. But, nobody dares to question apple. My 2019 macbook pro recently started giving me CATERR errors. There are a few forums and LLMs tell me it is logic board. I took it to Best Buy - a location suggested by apple support and they say we could replace battery but there is no guaranteee it will work. Logic board replacement would be $600 to $800. Unfortunately, only Apple can repair it given how every component is integrated and soldered. There is no help available from Apple support or anyone on this issue. Apple creates "Planned Obsolescence" deliberately. Every year they launch new products with minor improvements and that basically distorts markets. There is MEGA scalping going on for Mac Mini but Apple does not care. As a trillion dollar corporation seeking profits Apple does nothing to help price gauging. Unfortunately, there is no competition. Microsoft is 10x deep into its own issues. I wish we had startups who came up with strong competition for Apple.

I have (and still use) a 2019 mbp and it has had CPU thermal throttling issues since very early after I bought it new. Intel macs from that year were notorious for thermal throttling.

I had 2 MacBook Pros. One 2024 and one 2019. The 2024 one would connect fine to the internet, the 2019 one would not. After pasting in the airportd logs of both (into ChatGPT and Gemini) it found it was down to band switching (2.4GHz and 5GHz) through some really old error code. This fixed a problem that had plagued me for >12 months. Really magical feeling it got in on first try.

I still own a 13-inch MacBook Pro 2019 with the Touch Bar, and I believe it’s the last Intel-based model. What a nightmare. ‘Mad hot’ even on… just being alive.

"The new MacBook Pro gets up to 24 hours of battery life, giving Intel-based upgraders up to 13 additional hours" I have a Intel-based 2019 Macbook Pro still and I have NEVER in its lifetime gotten even half of what they are claiming here. These days if I run it from battery I might get 90 mins. That said I had a maxed out Macbook Pro M4 Max on order but just cancelled it right now and will get this new M5 Max one for basically the same price. Once I saw that they didn't up the price of memory (I don't know how it doesn't affect them) I canceled my order.

I don't know about you, but every laptop I've had suffered some sort of malfunction sooner or later and I never bothered to have them serviced because it was too much of a hassle - especially seeing how a friend of mine outright battled Lenovo support over mundane things like a failing keyboard despite everything being still in warranty. Specific issues by laptop: 1. Pressure marks on screen, failing USB ports, cracked hinge after three years. 2. Pressure marks on screen, failed battery, failing power supply socket after seven years. 3. Warped reflective layer in screen, rattling fans, overheating despite fan replacement (which I did at home and it took three hours) after five years. I also broke the butterfly keyboard on a 2019 MBP I was using at work. With the Framework I can address each and every one of the mentioned problems myself - just need to order parts and spend half an hour or so per item.

I used a 2019 MacBook Pro for quite a while, and it was my first (and so far only) dip into Apple-land. While I appreciated the really solid build quality, great screen, etc, the battery life was pretty abysmal. We're talking easily under 2 hours if I had to be in a video call, which basically meant taking a charger to any meeting of decent length. The 2nd biggest disappointment was when I ran my team's compute-heavy workload locally, expecting blistering performance from the i9, only to find that the CPU got throttled to under 50% (I seem to recall 47%, but my memory is fuzzy), within 6 seconds of starting the workload. And this was essentially a brand new laptop, so it likely wasn't blocked fan intakes. I fail to see the point of putting a CPU in a laptop that your thermal design simply can't handle.

> It’s not about raw speed > The benefit of the Mx Macs are the combination of speed Which I've stated is generally not that obvious to me. My compiling, and running of tests isn't massively different between machines. > quietness... and lack of heat. I can't think of a laptop I've had except the 2019 MacBook Pros that were so noisy and unnecessarily hot. It is a marked improvement over that, but that was a particularly low point in laptops. > battery life I'm sure it's really important for some folks to get more than 8 hours battery, and there's always someone here talking up their productive 15 hours flights, but I honestly don't get that much advantage from it, or have met someone who has. Definitely not enough to warrant more than £200 over the Thinkpad.

Yeah, I've opened Activity Monitor and confirmed that it's Zed and/or the Python instance that Zed is spawning (via a 3.11 venv). To be fair, Zed is running just fine on an M2 MacBook Air. I just wouldn't expect a code editor, with minimal features enabled, to bog down a 2019 MacBook Pro.

While there may be challenges, caring about frontend performance is still worth it. When I click the Create button in JIRA and start typing, the text field lags behind my typing. I use a 2019 MacBook Pro. Unforgivable. Whether one alternate implementation that lets me type normally is 10% faster than another or not or whatever may be harder to answer. If I measure how bad the UI is and it's actually 60x slower than vanilla JS rather than 70x because of measurement error, the app is still a piece of shit.

> The only reason this is an issue for repair shops is they can't sell you recycled stolen parts at bottom of market prices for a sky high mark up. This is just incredibly dishonest framing and completely ignoring what the right to repair and third party repair shop issue is all about. > Buying genuine parts, which are available from Apple, It is not a margin problem, it is an availability problem. Apple does not allow third party repair shops to stock common parts, such as batteries or displays for popular iPhones. This is only possible when providing the devices serial numbers. This effectively prevents third party repair shops from competing with Apple or Apple authorized service providers because they have artificially inflated lead times. Becoming Apple authorized isn't an option for actual repair shops because that would effectively disallow them from doing actual repairs when possible, rather than playing Dr. Part Swap. Everything what Apple does in the repair space essentially boils down to them doing everything they can to avoid having competition in the repair space. > eats into the margins Replacing a 45ct voltage regulator on a mainboard is cheaper than replacing the entire mainboard with everything soldered on is cheaper, but doesn't allow for very nice margins. > There is very little honour in the repair market There is very little honour in any market. Honour does not get rewarded nowadays, people are in to make money, if you're lucky they still take a little…

Ah my 2013 mbp died in 2019. It was the gpu. No way to repair it for cheap enough so I had to replace it with a 2019 mbp which was the computer I kept the shortest (I hated the keyboard).

No need for a black market, there's plenty of public ones (Backmarket, eBay, etc.). That being said $200 seems not terrible given the step change in performance since then (I own a 2019 MBP and think we were very unlucky with our purchase timing). Backmarket seems to sell yours for ~$350-500, so maybe you'll get a little bit more trade-in for it. I owned a 2014 MBP (~$1200?) for a long time and as late as 2019 it was resellable for $500.

I had a 2019 MacBook Pro until last year when my work issued me an M2. It's noticeably snappier and its battery life is far better than the 2019's was.

macOS has its own fair share of sleep bugs, particularly stuff like Parallels, IntelliJ or MS Teams for whatever reason routinely manage to prevent sleep or to randomly activate and hog the dGPU, turning a "lap top" to a "testicle airfryer". More than once I went on a train ride to the office, having clicked "Suspend" in the main menu and watching the screen go black before placing the laptop in my bag, just to find out the battery was completely drained and the 2019 MBP so hot that it not just required cooling down before it would power up again but also hot enough to fry an egg - an IR thermometer showed 70 °C! If anyone knows or writes an application that could place a red warning icon in the menu bar warning me that "suspending" will not actually work, I'll be glad to exchange it for a crate of beer.

EDIT: I should point out that, although I don't like MacOS, I ditched Apple-related products first and foremost because of both the hardware itself and the company. Every Apple product I've owned has failed in some spectacular way, and Apple's response is typically something along the lines of "You're SoL dude, you can either recycle it and buy a new product, or you can pay us something close to the value of the device to repair it" (because they solder everything unnecessarily). Framework finally came along and showed that you can have a sleek, elegant (and modular!) design without soldering everything together in the name of reducing weight by 0.01kg or whatever (or making it a hair-width thinner). Most recently, I had a 2019 Macbook Pro ($3K) that would frequently give me a "red screen of death" under load and crap out completely. Before that, a brand new 2018 Macbook Pro I bought (for nearly $3K mind you) became unusable within an hour after taking it out of the box because of the faulty keyboard (several keys either didn't register key presses, or they would turn one key press into multiple occurrences of the same letter). Before that, I had a Thunderbolt Display ($1K) that would fail intermittently, and it took 5 trips to the Apple store before they finally gave me a new one. Before that, I had a 2014 Macbook Pro for which the screen started peeling off -- I had to buy a matte screen protector to even be able to see the screen. I have several more examples as I go back