Apple iPhone 11 Pro

No one cares, and having replaceable batteries is not gonna make any difference software and hardware support as usual will drive most people to upgrade their phones or their computers or anything else electronic for that matter. Owner of an 11Pro iPhone soon to be obsolete after seven years. I probably will upgrade sometime in the next two years nine years with the same electronic device is long enough. I got my moneys worth. very satisfied with the longevity and resale value of most of the Apple products in comparison to the competition.

For me, I can buy a phone that works and will work for 6-8 years with software updates. I'm on my second iPhone, an 11 pro, that I've had for 5 years at this point. I have to use an Android phone for work and we replace them every two years as the security updates stop.

I'm still using an iPhone 11 Pro that I bought used, it's now almost 5 years old and still very, very usable. I did have the battery replaced about a year ago, but unless I break it/loose it, but I can see myself using it until Apple stops making OS updates for it. Even then, they seem decent at pushing out security fixes for old phones (I believe the 6s got a patch recently even though it's 2 versions behind the latest version).

> to be required to own an electronic device that rapidly falls in to obsolescence to perform basic activities. I bought an iPhone 11 Pro in 2019. I paid Apple $40 for a battery replacement last year. My phone continues to work well, and I'm going to keep it until it breaks. Apple still pushes updates for the iPhone 8 which was released in 2017, so I expected to get at least two or three more years of life out my iPhone.

I have an iPhone 11 Pro. It is about 4.5 years old and still runs great. My guess is I can get another 1.5 to 2.5 years out of it. My point here is not every phone which is more than a few years old stops working or cannot browse web sites.

I don’t like spending $1k on a phone, but my iPhone 11 Pro lasted 4 years and the only reason I upgraded was because the 15 has USB-C. It would have needed a battery upgrade otherwise but modern phones do have much better longevity.

> I guess because from a user point of view it doesn't make much sense: by the time the battery is dead, the phone is so outdated it serves no use anymore My previous phone lasted four years, and really I only replaced it because I have more money than sense and wanted a 120hz screen. iPhone 11 Pro, came out nearly five years ago, still totally fine, lots of them in circulation. The battery was certainly beginning to show its age by the end, but the phone was otherwise fine. Your point was maybe valid a decade ago, but phones last much, much longer these days. And getting supported still longer; current phones, particularly on the high end, are far faster than they need to be to support the OS, and rate of hardware change has slowed significantly (Apple, say, hasn't had a full-blown microarch change in years, with the M1-4 and their sibling A-whatevers being very much incremental progress on each other).

> I switched to my first iPhone last year and for me the determining factor was not feeling I had to constantly be on the upgrade path. I've has my iPhone SE (2020) and haven't been happier with a phone. Indeed. I am on my fourth iPhone, an 11 pro now three years old that I expect to keep for at least another year. More would be nice, but that probably requires a battery change. I had my two previous phones for four years each, no problem. I really don’t understand people who just have to get a new phone ever year or two (or three)!

...have you tried any of the cameras from the last 5 years or just the pixel 6? My 11 pro's cameras are by far the best cameras I've ever used on a smartphone, my previous iPhone included.

Still using a iPhone 11 Pro (2019) no problem running the latest update.

For many that is their only computer in that context having a smartphone definitely isn’t a bad thing. What’s bad is not saving up to buy it. Do not buy it on credit if you don’t have to, however, it must be said that if you get an iPhone, it does have better resale value (all Apple computers, and iPads) have a longer lifespan software wise, probably more than most other smartphones, which comes back to the question why are you renting or leasing? Just buy it on time with minimum interest upfront if you absolutely must buy it? Owner of an 11 Pro iPhone from 2019. With one or two years of Apple software support left?

I’m on iPhone 11 Pro with 4G data, it’s snappy and instant to me

Of course android is iOSs competition. android is also 75% of the market that apple surely wants bigger piece of. Performance? We are many years past the point somebody cared about performance. I am writing this on iphone 11 pro and the experience is almost exactly the same as current iOS. You know what's not the same? Android became pretty great OS. I recently got older Pixel to see how GrapheneOS works and was surprised about Android (which i havent seen for a decade). iOS on the other hand has recently gone trough with very bad ui redesign for no reason. Imho the main thing Apple has going for it is that Google is spyware company and Apple is still mainly hardware company. But if Apple decides to pull their users data to gemini… well good luck.

Yup, 64GB iPhone 11 Pro still going strong. A wee bit slow however, so...a new 17? Have to upgrade eventually.

> tempted to go back to Pixels I got my first Pixel (10 Pro XL); Only because their AI integration felt cool. My iPhone 11 Pro is still doing great overall, besides sluggishness here and there, and random Chrome crashes. I might consider upgrading to 17 now due to speed and camera upgrades. Honestly, it was not an exciting upgrade, just like their last 5.

My iPhone 11 Pro is the green one from that year. Still a great phone, although I can feel that it's seriously memory constrained. I'm finally ready to upgrade.

Define “a couple of years”. I am using an iPhone 11 Pro and only just now am I upgrading to a 16 pro, mostly for the camera. The phone itself still works well, including the battery.