AMD Ryzen 5800X3D

There is a 0.6B model so basically nothing. And the MoE 30B one has a decent shot at running OK without GPU. I'm on a 5800x3d so two generations old and its still very usable

I went from 2700 to 5800X3D and the difference is absolutely dramatic and well worth it. Originally I had a 1440p monitor with Geforce 1080 which was fine. Then I bought a 4K monitor and it brought it down to it's knees. Then upgraded to 3080 and there definitely was an improvement, but FPS was still unacceptably low so upgraded to that X3D processor. It's a beast and I play most games on 140+fps.

My 2500k could go up to 4.9 but the juice eventually lead to some massive degradation. It lasted me for 8 years until I jumped to a 3700x and now a 5800x3d. I like the performance but my next CPU is going to be 65w again. These things are hot. But not hot enough to jump on a 7800x3d. Funny how the best gaming CPU is 65w but the best GPU is about 8 times that. Heat and noise are important

Counterpoint - socket AM4 motherboards had an extremely long, upgradable life. Mine has 5 years on it and the 5800x3d I recently swapped in is still one of the fastest gaming CPUs there is. From a gaming standpoint it can handle any top of the line GPU. And it is in a 7.5l SFF case.

> Unified memory that is also high bandwidth. I do think Apple is smart in using memory the way they are. It's the future. But AMD routinely posts higher performance numbers for CPU and GPU because their large caches boast similarly high memory bandwidth figures and AMD's cores have significantly higher IPC. I also think Apple's trick of extending the ARM ISA to allow for x86 style memory alignment is slick for fast emulation. Credit where it's due. Apple's caches are also very fast, just not as large as AMD's. In short, memory bandwidth is just one measurement of the bandwidth along the entire disk bandwidth disk cache bandwidth PCIe bandwidth main memory bandwidth L4 / L3 / L2 / L1 cache bandwidth hierarchy, and details about cache coherency, associativity, eviction strategies, branch prediction, and other sundries matter along the way. My 8 core Ryzen 5800x3D certainly compiles code a LOT faster than my 8 core M1 Mac despite the difference in main memory bandwidth. More memory is almost always going to mean that memory is slower, and Ryzen can handle more memory. Ryzen's architected with large caches and prefetching and all kinds of other goodies with that in mind. > Use Geekbench 6. It's closest to SPEC and optimizes well for both x86 and ARM. Geekbench is a synthetic benchmark. I'd prefer real workloads like compiling code or tokens / s inference.

I only just upgraded from my i5 3570K to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Not because anything I was currently doing with my computer was becoming too slow, but because I wanted to do new things (VR). A shame, I wanted to run that thing into the ground. I've got my old system sat spare, I'm not sure what to do with it.

5800x3d / 5700x3d are MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than non-x3d in some games that are CPU bound (for some even 2x / 3x faster than non-x3d) so even with a "slower" GPU it can still be a large upgrade

The Ryzen 5800X3D has 96 MB of L3 cache, enough to fit the biggest NeoGeo or N64 games. The Zen 4-based Genoa-X will have up to 1 GB of L3 cache! You could comfortably fit Windows 95 there...