Indeed. I feel so weird reading this discussion section. My home server is on a 5600G. I turned it on, installed home assistant and jellyfin etc... , and since it has not been off. It's been chugging along completely unattended, no worries. Yes, it's in a basement where temperature is never above 21C, and it's almost never pushed to 100%, and certainly never for extended periods of time. But it's the stock cooler, cheap motherboard, cheap RAM and cheap SSD (with expensive NAS grade mechanical hard drives).
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> AMD 5700x processor I find it to be an odd choice. I mean the CPU itself is perfectly fine (typing this myself on a 5600G, which I very much like), but AM4 socket is pretty much over - there is no upgrade path anymore once it starts getting long on the tooth. (Unlike the other parts, which can be bumped: RAM, GPU, storage...)
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> AMD supports it on all chips Unfortunately not. I can't say for current gen, but the 5000 series APUs like the 5600G do not support ECC. I know, I tried... But yes, most Ryzen CPUs do have ECC functionality, and have had it since the 1000 series, even if not officially supported. Official support for ECC is only on Ryzen PRO parts.
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M2 mac mini on my desk uses 9.7 W right now at "idle". Quotes because I vnced into it to see the power consumption. Under the desk there's a linux box made with a Ryzen 5600G, that one does 20W at idle.
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I was under the impression that 5600g and 5600u were Zen3, but being the APU models they have Radeon graphics. Anecdotally, I tried to reproduce on my 5600g but couldn't. Which is surprising because they claim it works on 5700u... Edit: just discovered that while my 5600g is Zen3, the 5700u is Zen2. Lol.
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The other problem with Apple is just how expensive the RAM/SSD upgrades are now. I've got a Mac Mini M1 as soon as it came out. I recently got a Ryzen PC, 6 core 5600G w/ 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Cost approx £500. Upgrading the M1 spec from 256GB SSD to 1TB (£400) costs basically the same as the entire PC I bought. I'm impressed with the 5600G, it is super cool and quiet compared to what I was expecting and the 32GB of RAM makes much more of a difference to performance than the extra CPU perf of the M1. It's really a bit ridiculous that Apple is still selling products with a base config of 8/256. I'm pretty sure that hasn't increased since I got the retina macbook pro in 2012 unless I'm mistaken?
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Upscayl works fine, albeit exceptionally slowly, on my Ryzen APU (5600G). It uses the GPU, it's just that the GPU is very small. I suspect they are just not really wanting to advertise such a slow user experience, which is reasonable.
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I have not run a Windows VM in Qubes, and I've been using it full time for only about a week now, but: performance has not been an issue with up to at least 8. This is with an NVMe drive, Ryzen 5600G, and 32GB of RAM. Usability, however, is a bit wonky, but that's the trade-off for security. I'm sure my relative inexperience with it is at play there, as well.
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My 5600G idles at 22W whole system (wall power). However it has the cheaper chipset, not the x prefixed one, no video card at the moment and just one NVMe ssd for storage. It does have 4 x 16 Gb ram sticks so you can go even lower if you get 2 x 32 i guess.
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I just built a Ryzen 5600G system (without a discrete video card atm) and you can set either temperature or power consumption limits in the BIOS and it will underclock itself (actually turbo boost less) until it obeys your limits. Perhaps I'll wait with the video card until they give me the option to do the same there...
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I don't think there's a lot in it to be honest between vendors. They are all cheap garbage with lurid ass chunks of metal and artwork designed by a 5 year old stuck all over them. And there's one thing you can NEVER trust and that is objectivity from gamers when looking at failure and reliability statistics. It's one huge cargo cult. Notably my kids both have Ryzen 5600G + MSI B550 boards with no problems.
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The post is short so I'll paste it here. If this is against the rules please ban me. -----begin copy paste----- The 4600G is currently selling at price of $95. It includes a 6-core CPU and 7-core GPU. 5600G is also inexpensive - around $130 with better CPU but the same GPU as 4600G. It can be turned into a 16GB VRAM GPU under Linux and works similar to AMD discrete GPU such as 5700XT, 6700XT, .... It thus supports AMD software stack: ROCm. Thus it supports Pytorch, Tensorflow. You can run most of the AI applications. 16GB VRAM is also a big deal, as it beats most of discrete GPU. Even those GPU has better computing power, they will get out of memory errors if application requires 12 or more GB of VRAM. Although the speed is an issue, it's better than out of memory errors. For stable diffusion, it can generate a 50 steps 512x512 image around 1 minute and 50 seconds. This is better than some high end CPUs. 5600G was a very popular product, so if you have one, I encourage you to test it. I made some videos tutorials for it. Please search tech-practice9805 for on Youtube and subscribe to the channel for future contents. Or see the video links in Comments. Please also follow me on X: https://twitter.com/TechPractice1
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Also their CPUs with Radeon GPU are a lot more performing than Intel equivalents. You can grab a 5600G or 5700G alone, no external video card needed, and expect to play most recent games, albeit not at maximum details. For those not obsessed with gaming at the highest possible details, this translates in saving some serious money.
A search for "5700g gaming" on YouTube returns some examples.