AMD Ryzen 1700

That depends. My employer sells to enterprise / Fortune 500 companies. We have very responsive support staff. We've been around 15+ years. The question was asked: would we ever consider a scaled-down version of our product for the consumer market? The answer was: we don't know how to give bad support, so we can't play in the consumer market. So I'll agree for the CONSUMER space. For the B2B space, companies with good/great support do exist. Now, maybe our level of support is similar to other companies in the same space (no idea), but if you escalate, you will have someone respond within a given amount of time, we take our SLAs seriously, etc, etc. Anecdote: AMD RMAing my Ryzen 1700 due to the hardware issues the early chips had and shipping me a new one, no questions asked definitely improved my feelings towards AMD compared to say, Intel's response to FDIV (yes, I am that old - I remember that playing out in real-time on usenet).

The article links to a list of "The five greatest AMD CPUs". I've owned two and a half of these! Athlon XP 1800+, Ryzen 7 1700 (I had the 1800X which was just a higher bin of the same chip), and Ryzen 9 3950X. That same article also says that extending x86 to 64 bits "wasn't hard", which I'm not so sure about. There are plenty of mistakes AMD could have made and cleanups they could have missed, but they handled it all quite well AFAICS.

I had a Ryzen 1700 that didn't meet the windows 11 tpm standard. It was still working well for everything I threw at it, but I guess a little short of "modern". It still seems a arbitrary cut off for waste though. If TPM is standard enough on hardware surely adoption would happen regardless of OS requirements?

> First gen Ryzen was kinda mediocre. I've used both the Ryzen 3 1200 and 7 1700 and all of them seemed fine for their time and price. Honestly, I had the 1700 in my main PC up until last year, it was still very much okay for most things I might want to actually do, except no ReBAR support pushed me towards a Ryzen 5 4500 (got it for a low price, otherwise slightly better than the 1700 in performance, still good for my needs; runs noticeably hotter though, even without a big OC). I guess things are quite different for enthusiasts and power users, but their needs probably don't affect what would be considered bad/mediocre/good for the general population.